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the blue quasar:

haunthunters:

Well that depends. I'd certainly prefer people stash a micro outside Hooters than decide they require a category. Somehow a film canister in a plant seems to fit the classiness better than the effort and attention of waymarking.

- Elle

True... but who would try to start a Hooter's Category? Wait a minute... I know! If you are looking for 'classy' in your GPS gaming, whether Geocaching or Waymarking brought you to the Hooters, with Waymarking you already know where you are going... Geocaching, often it would be once you get there. I'd rather have money in my pocket for some wings! BQ

Waymarking aint exactly a den room full of men in top hats and monacles sipping brandy and smoking cigars, so maybe my use of "classy" is a bit strong, anyway.

"I say... is that a benchmark?"

"Why, dig it up ol' chap!"

"By george, this is in a park! We can cross-post this area ten times!"

"Splendid!"

- Elle

haunthunters:

Waymarking aint exactly a den room full of men in top hats and monacles sipping brandy and smoking cigars, so maybe my use of "classy" is a bit strong, anyway.

"I say... is that a benchmark?"

"Why, dig it up ol' chap!"

"By george, this is in a park! We can cross-post this area ten times!"

"Splendid!"

- Elle

By Jove, I think she's got it!

Seriously, I'm having a hard time understanding the problem some people have with Hooters. I mean other than an unfortunate name, of course.

The biggest complaint I hear is the uniforms for the waitresses.

I've seen worse.

Okay, BQ? You up for some wings?

team farkle 7:

haunthunters:

Waymarking aint exactly a den room full of men in top hats and monacles sipping brandy and smoking cigars, so maybe my use of "classy" is a bit strong, anyway.

"I say... is that a benchmark?"

"Why, dig it up ol' chap!"

"By george, this is in a park! We can cross-post this area ten times!"

"Splendid!"

- Elle

By Jove, I think she's got it!

Seriously, I'm having a hard time understanding the problem some people have with Hooters. I mean other than an unfortunate name, of course.

The biggest complaint I hear is the uniforms for the waitresses.

I've seen worse.

Okay, BQ? You up for some wings?

Oh, I got some [wing] bones to pick about Hooters. I got a soapbox here, trust me! When y'all write this thing, please include the actual company history. It's unique. I wouldn't call it a good unique, but it is unique from how other restaurants start-up. Or... you can just keep it the way that it was with "Hooters" written in each section. Need more be said? Hehehe

I'm hoping it doesn't lead to categories for those topless- and naked-server steakhouses along the highway. Gah...

- Elle

If you wish to comment on a certain Category, it is best done in a thread dedicated to that category. As one did not exist for Hooter's, I have started one.

Hooter'sRestaurants so please move the comments there for proper discussion.

BQ

team farkle 7:

haunthunters:

Waymarking aint exactly a den room full of men in top hats and monacles sipping brandy and smoking cigars, so maybe my use of "classy" is a bit strong, anyway.

"I say... is that a benchmark?"

"Why, dig it up ol' chap!"

"By george, this is in a park! We can cross-post this area ten times!"

"Splendid!"

- Elle

By Jove, I think she's got it!

I say, old chap, when did we start letting the Fairer Sex into the Royal Society of Waymarkers? It is a bit rough for their sensibilities, I'd expect.

[j/k]

0ccam:

I say, old chap, when did we start letting the Fairer Sex into the Royal Society of Waymarkers? It is a bit rough for their sensibilities, I'd expect.

I think around 1920, with the ratification of the 19th amendment.

OK, you guys.  You have to read part of this.  Yes, it's a thread over at the forums for that OTHER gps game.  I've got the URL set to trim it so that the first post you should see is where the funny starts.

Read through it and AT LEAST get to where McDonald's is mentioned.

Read this Thread

kind of like a movie review i just heard, the start was good, middle wasnt so good, and the end was ok.

do those guys ever go caching? obviously if we are posting waymarks we actually got out of the house or we wouldnt have anything to post......

and if not for many of those lameo caches i might not have found a lameo mark to post.....

I like lameo caches. That make me feel better about the ones I have out. I have a feeling that newbies and the yellow pages analogy will always go hand in hand until there is a real effort by the newbie to make the best of waymarking. I was hardcore deadset against setting up another waymark. I set up one in 2006 and one 1 person visited it. Yet when I set up a cache then even my tough or "lameo" ones gets more visits then that every year. The main reason being the lack of targets in WMing for hunters looking for numbers. Why go for 3 or 4 decent waymarks in your area when you can hit 15 caches in a day and be rushed through those most enjoyable areas just so you can get the approval of your friends with your HUGE smiley count. I'm going through a different type of WMin' process, yeah numbers are great if your trying to win a game but who's winning. My new goal is to set up some routes where WMers can take one road or a nice round trip and hit a bunch of waymarks. BUT, I'm going to suggest nice places to stop for lunch. Maybe I'll WM a local resturant or 3 as a suggestion to add to their experience and create a wonderful sunday drive. Cachin' is weird. 1,000's of people will tell you they got in it to get outdoors and to relax, yet they will stress out at the first roadside cache they can't find. I think WMin' could offer more in the long run as an enjoyable hobby but there needs to be some way to avoid or get around the McDonalds, Yellow Book mentality of the newbies. But then again, if these people are turned off by waymarking and not willing to give it a good try then maybe they are just after the numbers after all and should stick with cachin'. They will come. Not all of them but enough of them to keep WMin' interesting for years to come. I'm really glad I gave WMin' a second try and a much better try this time. Its actually more like stepping out of the rat race of cachin' and getting into the true spirit of discovery. I'm finding out more history about my home town and they surrounding areas then I ever have before. In my opinion there will always be room for both but the true treasures that we take back home with us at the end of the day isn't the knowledge that you found a plastic container but that you explored a new area and have another place to escape too. Right now if I go to a waterfall 5 miles back in the woods then why the hell would I want to waste a moment looking for a smiley when its staring me in the face the whole time I'm there. In a couple months I'll be waymarking a real treat. The tallest waterfall in NY. God I can't wait ot get out again. Oh by the way its about 50 miles from the waterfall to the nearest MickyD's. Swizzle

I live in an area with more waymarks than caches by a fairly large margin,  don't expect that just higher numbers will cause people to search out and visit waymarks.    If you use the coordinates returned for St. Louis you will find that within 100 miles there are 5075 waymarks with less than 5% being in commercial categories and there are 3287 geocaches.  If I bring that down to 10 miles you will find there are 1349 waymarks and only 266 caches again less than 5% of the waymarks are commercial type waymarks.  I get several visits a week on waymarks most the waymarks that get visited most often are sites that tourist visit most, the Arch, Busch stadium etc.  I have a virtual cache which gets found regularly within .2 tenths of a mile of that virtual cache there are 25 waymarks  many of which have never been visited, many are actually more interesting locations than the virtual.  

Typically if a geocacher is seeking smiley's  he is interested in only one type of smiley... one that counts in his geocaching find count..  (note I am not advocating that waymarks count toward that find count)... I don't worry about if my waymarks get visited or not, I got my enjoyment out of them when I visited, took my photos, did my write up and submitted the waymark.   If they get visited it is nice but I have already had my enjoyment so they are just bonus

I get much more enjoyment from waymarks where I have received an email thanking me for posting photos of their grandfathers grave (he was a Medal of Honor recipient) or an email from a Vietnam veteran who just happened to see a waymark for a plaque honoring his actions in Vietnam and he was not even aware that the plaque existed.

That's cool. I like to read what people thought about my waymarks and geocaches. I know that a lot of these waymarks I'll be just happy to get a pic and a TFTW. Its the ones that I try to lead them too that I want to read about and see pics. I'm hoping to get all seasons pics in some of these. I just noticed something when I was typing waymarking into the yahoo search bar that is helping to give us the yellow pages feel. The drop menu went down and the third choice down was "McDonalds Waymarking". I'm guessing that that is where that comes from. I'm getting pretty excited. I'm just waiting on 3 submittals for my first lucky 7. WOOHOO. Swizzle

i google, and there are many search phrases that return waymarking near the top.....

and , one day, ill sit down and figure out a lucky 7 of my own (or several) to post...

i like to see pics on the logs, wether the category asks for it or not....i know i always post pics of my visit....

one day WM will be to the point of GC.....

many cacher here hover over gc.com/email waiting on that new cache to be placed to go find it (they have already found all the others)...

so then, eventually (who knows when) all the historic markers will be posted. all the NRHP. then we will all be sitting around our email/internet waiting on the next one to be approved/listed/installed. itll be a long time (well, some cities are already NRHPd out), but it will come.

ive had marks from 2005 that have never been visited. i have some cross posts that have never been visited (baffles me how i can have 5 marks for the same building, but they only log 1....)like bruce said, its more about my posting enjoyment than their visiting. though i do love to recieve a good visit. my feeling, if you post it they will visit. some just take longer than others. and the more 'remote'/'harder to get to' the more i enjoy the post.....but then again those marks can have little info returned in a net search....

yeah, cachers are a funny sort. I'm certainly not suggesting that Waymarks are better or more enjoyable... but.

What I fail to understand is why they continue to search out and log caches they know they will not enjoy, and openly will say so in their logs. I view this in much the same way as renting DVDs from a genre that one does not like.

"I hate Sci-Fi movies.... but I just have to watch Earthworms from space attack Dover Delaware because my collection would not be complete, and I look forward to having my personal scorecard filled in. Then my friends and I can sit around and compare how bad it was {insert the sound of Beavis and Butthead giggling}"

Of course, what can you expect from a group that cannot be honest with themselves to say...

"You know, these are easy and the only point they serve is to increase my statistics but I enjoy seeing the area around me cleared out. That is the challenge that I have set for myself.

Not every movie can be "Star Wars"... but when you are renting "Earthworms from space attack Dover Delaware" instead of "Gone with the Wind" or "Blazing Saddles".... well, that is the choice you made.

BQ

I don't expect to get 5 logged visits for anything that I have cross posted 5 times. If I was to do that then it real is about the numbers. I think the cross posting is a better way of increasing the possibilty of a WM getting visited. I certainly wouldn't want to log 1 and copy and paste that to 4 others. Its 1 item and 1 experience, the reason I went to it is because it came up in my search and it looked interesting. If i wasn't cross listed then I might not have seen it at all. I'm sure I'll have more to add later. Right now I gotta go. Happy WMin' guys. I have pics to take and coords to get. Swizzle

the blue quasar:

 Not every movie can be "Star Wars"... but when you are renting "Earthworms from space attack Dover Delaware" instead of "Gone with the Wind" or "Blazing Saddles".... well, that is the choice you made. BQ

Only you could compare gone with the wind with blazing saddles. What an interesting mash-up that could be.

im just glad the wind is blowing the bean smell the other way....

the blue quasar:

Not every movie can be "Star Wars"... but when you are renting "Earthworms from space attack Dover Delaware" instead of "Gone with the Wind" or "Blazing Saddles".... well, that is the choice you made. BQ

Er...wouldn't they be spaceworms?

chapterhouseinc:

im just glad the wind is blowing the bean smell the other way....

Hey why drag me into this?

i thought you were the one responsible for that scene in the movie.....my favorite musical fruit...

One take on McDonald's and history - Someone might try to waymark or visit all the film locations of the documentary, "Supersize Me." (and get a bonus, since these waymarks could be logged in as movie locations - unless only fictional movies count). 

I have 1 logged as a waymark, and there will not be more than a handful.  Those that seem to be looking at McDonalds and other commercial waymarks are missing the other major listings in the other divisions, such as Buildings and History/Culture.  Those 'in the game' understand the sheer number of waymarks that aren't of the McDonald's/Burger King/KFC mold, but perhaps a few numbers help others understand the postings being made.

I count about 22,000 WM in the Business/Commerce division, of which 14,685 are food/drink, and 5,302 for the stores/retail category groups (roughly summing up the waymarks in the subcategories list), both of which have a mix of big chain and independent operations.  McDonald's currently has 2,151 posted WM.

The Buildings division has about 30,000 WM.  This is a listing that would attract a lot of people interested in architecture and history.  The top few subcategories are the category groups government services (12,213), religious buildings (5,798), transportation (buildings) (1,852) and meeting houses (1,389).  OK, so many post offices are just modern brick and glass structures or are part of a city block.  However, some others have interesting architecture designs, such as many built in the WPA era.

The "mother lode" where waymarks are posted is in the History/Culture division with about 42,000 WM.  The top subcategories are the category groups and categories, historical markers (23,505 - which, by the way, is more than the entire business/commerce division), U.S. National Register of Historic Places (7,803 - a single category - impressive!), U.S. NRHP contributing buildings (1,442), Highways and Byways (1,442), American Guide Series (1,190), and First of Its Kind (1,070).

So, there seems to me to be plenty of non commercial waymarks being posted.  Perhaps there have been more commercial categories posted of late, but as long as we keep adding non-commercial ones, too and have the ability to filter for the ones I want, I'm not concerned about that.  I just don't want to see the day when I click on a waymark that a pop-up screen opens advertising the place.

 

I have been the recipient of that email of a relative thanking me for posting the headstone - it is a TREMENDOUS feeling of satisfaction that is hard to come by.  I also have benefitted from advice and friendship of excellent waymarkers who make sure that I keep my postings up to scratch.

I enjoy my caching, also, but I enjoy my specific categories of waymarking.  I don't happen to do a lot of the commercial waymarks, unless they involve the dated buildings or NRHP.  I do enjoy the history of old cemeteries and old headstones.  I also love historical markers.  There are about 50 or 60 categories that I will actively search out and others I will get if I can remember the specifics of what they want.  Again, waymarking, as well as caching, is a way to get out and EXPLORE with my best friends - my wife, my truck, my GPSr, and my digital camera.  (Had to list the wife first or she'd a KILLED me!  LOL)