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BruceS:

the blue quasar:

Personally I don't agree with "Additional Visiting Requirements", apart from uploading a photo taken at the site. 

Either include a photo that you took at the site if it is required, and always provide details of the Visit.  I don't see how there can be a 'Found It' option.

 

BQ

I agree, I don't see a "Found It" option either.  I may have had to find it  when I submitted the waymark.  By submitting the waymark I made it easier for someone else to visit it. When I  went out  and found it for the submission I was  going off  some description of address or  less information, when  someone else goes out they have all that information  plus  the coordinates  and anything else I put in my description, thus they are "Visiting"

the leprechauns:

BruceS:

the blue quasar:

Personally I don't agree with "Additional Visiting Requirements", apart from uploading a photo taken at the site. 

Either include a photo that you took at the site if it is required, and always provide details of the Visit.  I don't see how there can be a 'Found It' option.

 

BQ

I agree, I don't see a "Found It" option either.  I may have had to find it  when I submitted the waymark.  By submitting the waymark I made it easier for someone else to visit it. When I  went out  and found it for the submission I was  going off  some description of address or  less information, when  someone else goes out they have all that information  plus  the coordinates  and anything else I put in my description, thus they are "Visiting"

If I wanted to go *find* something, I'd hunt for a geocache or two or ten.  You find things that are hidden.

Waymarks are things that are there, in plain sight.  The first person there makes it easier for everyone else to "find" the location, by marking the coordinates.  Once the general location is thus established for the three-story historic building, or the 50 foot mural, or the 800 foot suspension bridge, it is not a huge task to "find" that object.  You *visit* the site because the target is something that's of interest to you.

Someone go set up a nanowaymark and blow my reasoning out of the water.

I guess I've been waymarking all wrong.  As noted above, I don't log visits to my own waymarks.

When I write up a new waymark, I *definitely* like to personalize the description, with things like this:

"I was on my way to the XYZ geocache, took a wrong turn, and was rewarded by stumbling across this cool ________ totally by accident..."

"I call this Starbucks location the "Coffee Confluence" because it is located exactly on the 80 degree west longitude line.  How cool is THAT?  It's also my "home Starbucks" because it is across the street from my office building, and I go there nearly every day."

I have never had a waymark declined in any category because I included too many personal opinions in my waymark writeup.  To the contrary, I get lots of compliments for going above and beyond copying and pasting some text out of Wikipedia and calling it a waymark.  Yes, I could put the interesting stuff in a visit log.  But when you pop open the waymark page, you see the description first.  If it's a boring, "just the facts" writeup, as a first-time reader I might yawn and move on to the next one, and miss a really cool story that's buried on the next screen in the waymark owner's "visit" log.  There are not very many people visiting waymarks yet, and in part my writeups are marketing pieces, designed to hold the reader's attention and persuade them that the waymark is worth a visit.

Maybe I'm too used to the geocaching model.  Cache owners put all sorts of extraneous stuff on cache pages, things that have absolutely nothing to do with locating the ammo box in the woods.  There are tributes to pets, themed caches, milestone caches to honor Joe Cacher's 1000th find, and so forth.  And it's frowned upon for cache owners to log "finds" on their own caches.  I guess I'm just stuck on that paradigm.

I don't care a whit what others choose to do, but I'd like to write up colorful waymark descriptions and leave it at that, without a separate visit log.

Even Jeremy says to visit our own wamarks

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chstress53:

Even Jeremy says to visit our own wamarks

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Sure! That's one of the reasons why it is called a visit instead of a find. Anyone can visit their own waymark (and most should since that's the point of it all). It's also the proper place to offer you experience, while the waymark itself should have a generally unbiased description of the location."

 

chstress53:

Even Jeremy says to visit our own wamarks

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Sure! That's one of the reasons why it is called a visit instead of a find. Anyone can visit their own waymark (and most should since that's the point of it all). It's also the proper place to offer you experience, while the waymark itself should have a generally unbiased description of the location."

 

But I have not been able to vist them more than once, I can not even post a new note to my waymarks with my new experiences.  I always visit my Winery Waymarks at least twice yearly and say something about the new wines etc. or the annual Lighthouse tours has me visit more than once, different artists are there for those happenings and the experiences are differnet.  PLEase Correct this as I need to visit when ever I can and share my experiences.

On this waymark

I have submitted this at least 10 times tonight and it never appears.  Same for the Cape MAy Winery

Tried again with the Cape May Winery

I still can not get this to either visit or post as a note.  When I hit submit at the bottom it takes me back to the earlier note or visit

"You have already visited this waymark.

Even Chapterhouse says he can not visit a second time

"chapterhouseinc:

so can we visit a mark more than once again too?

looks like chess got caught in the nexus too.....

look at 'wm1', bootron has visited it several times.....

chstress53:

Still not working yet

It's only 8:41am out in Seattle.... the Starbuck's hasn't even lost temperature yet

BQ

chapterhouseinc:

so can we visit a mark more than once again too?

looks like chess got caught in the nexus too.....

look at 'wm1', bootron has visited it several times.....

Look a little closer - "Bootronjr" visited first, Bootron visited later, and Bootron posted a note later yet.

0ccam:

Oops.  I didn't mean to imply my way was the only right way (I've been trying to control that urge for 20+ years).

That's just the way I thought of waymarking when I first started.

Believe me, I'm not going to AVOID any of yours because you personalized it up front!

and i dont mean to imply that my 'way' is 'the' way either.....it is just my interpretation, as we all have our own interpretation...which is always open for a reinterpreatation.....just like that other game, it is left open so that one can 'play' as one likes.......i try to remain inside boundaries that are explicitly defined and discuss all others (as with the OP here) here--in the forums--which is how things can become reinterpreted amongst ourselves. then with dissimenation it may become common accepted practice.....

i have also tried to remain from making caustic statements, or make them as vague as possible (which you have done since i do not know who you are speaking to, but you did reply to a message) so that i might cool down and construct more rational thoughts on the manner......

we are all individuals and wm is quite the objective hobby.....so there is no reason that we should shun these individual types of waymarking operations

chstress53:

Still not working yet

Ok, the visit functionality is now fixed.  We are limiting you to one visit per waymark (think of it as a "been there, done that" instead of a means to keep track of every single time you literally visit the place), and we're restricting the "write note" functionality to one note per 24 hour period.  We're also allowing you to edit your visit and notes for 24 hours before they become permanent.  Also, it will notify you now if you have already posted your note for the day and will allow you to gracefully return to the waymark page, instead of the ugly buggy way it used to work.

So much for my evil plan to surpass everyone on the "waymarks visited" leaderboard by logging a "Visit" every morning at Starbucks, and all the historic markers and historic buildings that I pass on my daily commute.

Seriously, the new plan makes sense to me.  The visits total should represent the number of unique places visited.  Since it's "not about the numbers" here, at least in my mind, I don't care about a "Visit" versus a "Note."

Thanks for making the changes.

I'm with Lep on this one.  I'll log a visit on my own waymark if I actually go back to it (like the playground, coffee shop, McDonald's--just for you bootron!--etc.)  I won't log it when I submit it though.

this is a good resolution.

however, it still might be desirable to have other sorts of logging types.

Thanks , I like the resolution.  Posting a note works for me.  I really do like revisting some of my waymarks., like the wineries,pubs, B&B's but dont think I would revisit a historical marker.

The way I play the game currently is not to visit my waymark until after it has been created, and then when I get back for a visit I then write up that visit.

chapterhouseinc:

this is a good resolution.

however, it still might be desirable to have other sorts of logging types.

What other log types did you have in mind?  For me, I'm missing the concept of a DNF (did not find).

I can't even think about *visiting* my own waymarks if I can't *find* my own waymarks.  This happens to me regularly in categories like historic markers where there's a big online database to tell you where the markers are.  But sometimes the descriptions are sketchy, and sometimes the markers go missing just as geocaches do.  There's no place to record my futile searches, which are sometimes amusing, because there is no waymark page.

I am imagining that once I get into the swing of visiting other people's waymarks, I'll prove myself to be just as adept at DNF'ing a waymark as I am at DNF'ing  a geocache.  When that happens, writing a note just won't have the same special feeling.  It's all about the frownies, you know.