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My officers were resolute at the time the Graves of the Unknown category was written to not include unknown soldier graves. I assume they will remain resolute on this issue and I have formed new reasons since that time to not include soldier graves.

Waymarking is wide open for anyone to please write a Graves of Unknown Soldiers category. It will have some issues to it that the officers will have to figure out to write a comprehensive category but the same can be said for any number of categories. With the number of unknown soldier graves that are submitted to the Graves of the Unknown category, despite a clear statement in the category description instructing otherwise, it appears there is a demand within the Waymarking community to waymark these sites.

So please feel free!

Sounds reasonable.
Well written & clearly defined category.
Makes perfect sense to keep military & civilians separate, if for no other reason than how they left this world. Unknown soldiers, most likely died in battle. I've no desire to list the many ways John/Jane Doe can kick the bucket.

Stick to your guns Red!

"Unknown soldiers, most likely died in battle"

Or by disease in a prison camp...

How would you handle partial identification?  I have seen on some US Civil War graves with First Name only and Company Name  (i.e. Johnny - PVT Alabama 5th)

I think I got Red's cockels up with two submissions. I had read the description before but when I found the two monuments, I was too excited and didn't read the description again. I had forgotten it was non-military only. When I reread the description I saw my error and didn't argue the point.

There should be a place for military unknown. The site I submitted has 11,700-12,800 unknown soldiers in 18 trenches and a few hundred more in individual graves. They need to be remembered (and waymarked) even if not by name.

Fatcat

P.S. Sorry Red :/

You have high ighted the problem with Unknown Soldiers graves, there are just so many of them.  Many of the National Cemeteries were started as a result of the Civil War.  Many of these cemeteries have 10's of thousands of unknown soldier graves all looking the same.  Thus how do you waymark them, a waymark for each grave, very difficult to differentiate between them or one for the cemetery, we  have a category for veterans cemeteries. The veteran cemeteries can be waymarked so please waymark the site of the graves in that category.

BruceS:

You have high ighted the problem with Unknown Soldiers graves, there are just so many of them.  Many of the National Cemeteries were started as a result of the Civil War.  Many of these cemeteries have 10's of thousands of unknown soldier graves all looking the same.  Thus how do you waymark them, a waymark for each grave, very difficult to differentiate between them or one for the cemetery, we  have a category for veterans cemeteries. The veteran cemeteries can be waymarked so please waymark the site of the graves in that category.

Even though the unknowns are buried in a veterans cemetery that can be waymarked, they deserve to be given a waymark of their own. They gave more than their lives, they gave their identity to our country.

I would make the posting requirements flexable. If the waymarker wanted to put the whole hillside in a waymark, fine. If they wanted to do each separately, fine. Personally, I run out of energy uploading photos. But if someone wanted to upload 10000 photos, and carefully mark and digest them, it would be awesome!

 

fatcat161:

I think I got Red's cockels up with two submissions. I had read the description before but when I found the two monuments, I was too excited and didn't read the description again. I had forgotten it was non-military only. When I reread the description I saw my error and didn't argue the point.

There should be a place for military unknown. The site I submitted has 11,700-12,800 unknown soldiers in 18 trenches and a few hundred more in individual graves. They need to be remembered (and waymarked) even if not by name.

Fatcat

P.S. Sorry Red :/

No apology necessary, Fatcat! I wouldn't have written the post if you were the only one and it's less cockels (I'm a girl, do I have those?) and more reason. The fact of the matter is that there is obviously a demand for it since these waymarks keep getting submitted to the Graves of the Unknown category. I'm just making the suggestion so someone can run with it. I bet you're not alone in your feelings and that just makes the need for the category all the more.

Cockerels is a young rooster, but locally it means the feathers on a roosters neck, as when they puff them out before a fight. "Getting your cockerels up" translates to "getting your panties in a wad".  :D

I figure I was just the straw the broke the camels back. :/

Fatcat

fatcat161:

Cockerels is a young rooster, but locally it means the feathers on a roosters neck, as when they puff them out before a fight. "Getting your cockerels up" translates to "getting your panties in a wad".  :D

I figure I was just the straw the broke the camels back. :/

Fatcat

There's no need to fear, it wasn't the straw that broke the camels back but I surely wasn't going to let a golden opportunity slip away or let it fall down in between the cracks before bringing it before the judge and jury to see if someone was willing to pick up the torch. The post wasn't about getting rid of flotsam and jetsam but getting the cows behind the right fence. Writing that category is a sticky wicket but someone with the right stick-to-itive-ness and some old fashioned elbow grease can make it happen and get the job done. I'm glad we're on the level across the board, so it's now water over the dam and water under the bridge. :)

Not that I want to throw myself on any landmines here but if there is enough interest from others reading this post for us to form a group of officers please contact me. I have some sites I would love to waymark in a category like this. I have some ideas as well on how we could make this flexible enough to work with some of the other categories.
The Fed

I have a lot of Unknown Soldiers and would love to work with you on the category.

A suggestion would be to create a waymark category called Unknown Soldiers Cemeteries rather than marking each grave. Within each waymark, acknowldegment for each grave could be included.