Recruiting and Category Proposals

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

dopeyduck — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:28:42 GMT

I'm just catching up on the news of this thread from the weekend and I'm happy to see that there are a lot of people who support the general concept. It sounds like the idea just needs to be fine tuned. I didn't get a chance to see the "Food Network" category, but on name alone I would not support it if it was restrictive to just that specific cable network. I would like to see shows from BBC, the TV networks in Australia, Asia, etc too. And also the same reason why I would not want it specifically tied to one TV show. If it switches to a Food Travelogue Location category, I'd fully support it and be an officer.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

globetrotters.us — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:04:37 GMT

It's amazing how often we see the example of "Great Minds think alike" in this group full of creative people.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

saopaulo1 — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 06:00:06 GMT

I've taken the group out of peer because of the brouhaha. Though I hope that in the future people see if there's already a group made. I know it was an honest mistake, but I was still annoyed.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

saopaulo1 — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:18:09 GMT

BruceS:
saopaulo1:
BruceS:
The current Food Network category that is up for vote is not a revised version of this category. I wonder why someone would submit a category for review while another is still in the works... I have one word for that.... Classless.

The category is mine. I started a group for Food Network Location before Diner, Drive-In and Dives was started. When I finished it, the other one was up. If it had passed, I would'nt have done anything, and used that group. Is is equally;y classless to start a similar group that someone has already started?

I don't know, I didn't start the group and didn't get involved until it was already nearly done with peer review..... Many groups get started and go no where but once a category has been put up for vote... I personally would wait until that category has run its course especially when the category is being discussed with leader of the category expressing that he is willing to change.

I told the leader I was going to wait to see how the outcome came. I'm sorry if people where offended, but I was also offended that after making a category, another one with a similar theme was made. Would I be ok to make a regional coffe shop when Silverquill already has made one and put if up for peer tomorrow?

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

BruceS — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:14:34 GMT

saopaulo1:
BruceS:
The current Food Network category that is up for vote is not a revised version of this category. I wonder why someone would submit a category for review while another is still in the works... I have one word for that.... Classless.

The category is mine. I started a group for Food Network Location before Diner, Drive-In and Dives was started. When I finished it, the other one was up. If it had passed, I would'nt have done anything, and used that group. Is is equally;y classless to start a similar group that someone has already started?

I don't know, it appears both groups started on same date, I didn't start the group and didn't get involved until it was already nearly done with peer review..... Many groups get started and go no where but once a category has been put up for vote... I personally would wait until that category has run its course especially when the category is being discussed with leader of the category expressing that he is willing to change.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

saopaulo1 — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 05:07:10 GMT

BruceS:
The current Food Network category that is up for vote is not a revised version of this category. I wonder why someone would submit a category for review while another is still in the works... I have one word for that.... Classless.

The category is mine. I started a group for Food Network Location before Diner, Drive-In and Dives was started. When I finished it, the other one was up. If it had passed, I would'nt have done anything, and used that group. Is is equally;y classless to start a similar group that someone has already started?

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

BruceS — Mon, 29 Jun 2009 03:43:22 GMT

The current Food Network category that is up for vote is not a revised version of this category. I wonder why someone would submit a category for review while another is still in the works... I have one word for that.... Classless.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

globetrotters.us — Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:04:06 GMT

Redneck Parrotheads:

How's about a general Reality TV Places category that focuses on the sites used in only Reality TV programs, from all these traveler cooking shows to renovation shows to Survivor locales...

Maaaybe?

I like that idea. I don't have cable, so I'm not up on all the show's. It's fun watching just the names of the shows in this post, so viewing the waymarks would be even more fun.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

Redneck Parrotheads — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:19:08 GMT

It might be cool to have a category that accepts the restaurants that are on Kitchen Nightmares (BBC & FOX). Just to stay up to speed on whether they kept the changes Gordon Ramsey made, if their food sucks again, etc etc etc. But I'm not sure Waymarking is the appropriate venue for that. That strikes me as more of a fandom website that doesn't need GPS coordinates.

How's about a general Reality TV Places category that focuses on the sites used in only Reality TV programs, from all these traveler cooking shows to renovation shows to Survivor locales...

Maaaybe?

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

b.b.wolf — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 21:15:43 GMT

BruceS is awesome. Thank You

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

b.b.wolf — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:47:48 GMT

sorry, I do not know how to remove the html gibberish from my last reply.lol

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

b.b.wolf — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:40:45 GMT

TheBeanTeam:

Even though I mentioned earlier (above) that perhaps a broader category might be a consideration I am gradually warming up to the category as is with some clarifications and additions which the creator of the cat has indicated a willingness to address. B. B. Wolf's participation in the discussion has changed my mind about the category as has Sao Paulo's note regarding some of the locations which do not fall under the diner umbrella. Next, add the fact that this particular show has a verifiable list which makes it specifically waymarkable and I think we have a viable category.

That said a broader category may be something to still consider if verification could be figured out. . Here is a show in Canada that likely would work in a broader cat., but how to verify? I can't find a list of locations for it. Great Canadian Food Show

Here is the episode list for the Great Canadian Food Show. It has a verifiable list of restaurants, albeit you have to sort by episode first. I am sure the officers would find this to be an acceptable show to add to the group. There are probably several different countries with programs that can be added to the group.

Episode list

edited: BruceS removed excess html gibberish

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

b.b.wolf — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:16:56 GMT

fatcat161:
If the category is open to all TV show food locations, How will you verify them? We had the "best hot dog" series on the local news last year. They should all be postable because of that. However, as an officer how could you verify them? They may or may not be mentioned on the TV web site. And I'm sure you don't watch ever local news program.

If it is broader, it should be limited to TV shows that are series (not just a special) and has a verifiable list either on the shows web site or an independant web site that maintains a list. So if someone post a site from a show that isn't in the current accepted list, the poster would need to include a link to the list in the private message area and the officers could then add that to the description of the category.

Fatcat

I was meaning series of national broadcasting, not local programs or non-series. Diners, Drive-ins and
Dives has a verifiable list, and we would expect that of other series as well.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

dopeyduck — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:08:10 GMT

TheBeanTeam:

That said a broader category may be something to still consider if verification could be figured out. . Here is a show in Canada that likely would work in a broader cat., but how to verify? I can't find a list of locations for it. Great Canadian Food Show

Here is another "No Reservations" that has the host traveling the world and the location lists (from the Azores to Vietnam) give addresses to the venues he enjoyed in each country. It could easily be verified and open up the cat to worldwide waymarking. Using Uruguay as an example there would be 5 locations waymarkable in 4 cities across the country.

Now THAT'S what I'm talking about - I love the idea of waymarking Diners, Drive-Ins and Dives, I just think it should include more shows & locations. I just did a wiki search for Feasting on Asphalt, and they have a very comprehensive list already with generic coords of the locations! These types of shows are called Food Travelogue Television Series and this Wikipedia list includes shows worldwide. The Thirsty Traveler also lists the bars and pub destinations from their shows around the world.

These Food Travelogue shows highlight everything from diners, dives, bakeries, pubs, fish markets, spice shops, tea rooms, the coffee kiosk where the baristas wear bikinis, and hot dog carts. So some of these locations would be cross-posted in other categories, but a category of Food Travelogue locations would highlight the zany, the best of's, and catch other placess without categories.

Re: Question on new Diners/Drive-In's Cat in review

TheBeanTeam — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 16:29:25 GMT

Even though I mentioned earlier (above) that perhaps a broader category might be a consideration I am gradually warming up to the category as is with some clarifications and additions which the creator of the cat has indicated a willingness to address. B. B. Wolf's participation in the discussion has changed my mind about the category as has Sao Paulo's note regarding some of the locations which do not fall under the diner umbrella. Next, add the fact that this particular show has a verifiable list which makes it specifically waymarkable and I think we have a viable category.

That said a broader category may be something to still consider if verification could be figured out. . Here is a show in Canada that likely would work in a broader cat., but how to verify? I can't find a list of locations for it. Great Canadian Food Show

Here is another "No Reservations" that has the host traveling the world and the location lists (from the Azores to Vietnam) give addresses to the venues he enjoyed in each country. It could easily be verified and open up the cat to worldwide waymarking. Using Uruguay as an example there would be 5 locations waymarkable in 4 cities across the country.

silverquill:

TheBeanTeam:
The Zippy the Pinhead cat is full of links and resources......Snip

I think this was a good example of how to develop a difficult and different category.

Why thank you for the kind words. It took a lot of time to put it together but for me it is the most enjoyable of the categories I have created....even if I don't agree with all of the politics of the comic strip it is the only strip I know of that is waymarkable in this fashion.

silverquill:

Oh, I do have a waymark already listed in Diners and in Best Hamburgers that was featured in this show, so I guess one more cross listing would be okay!

Perhaps the creator of the category could use a few of your photos for the category description page to dress up the page with real examples of locations featured.