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 Natural Free flowing springs abound in my home state of Florida as well as around the world. Being somewhat new to Waymarking I am surprized not to see a category to Waymark springs with. I saw Artesian wells(drilled), Spring Houses and Hot Springs (developed and undeveloped) but Natural free Flowing springs do not fit in any of these 3 catgories as best as I can tell. I dont even see how they would fit in a sub categorie of any of these. Perhaps I am overlooking something in my search and I have just not found the catewgory. If there is in fact not a catgory for springs I have examined the process to start a new category and would like to see the communitie's opinion on this topic. Or alink to the category if I am missing it. Thanks

That's a great idea, federation.  I love coming across these - they seem like magic - water just flowing out of the ground.

Good Idea on the drop downs, I was also thinking of public or private lands, paid adnmission ect.

What's the difference between a stream vs a creek?

I've always interchanged the creek and stream.  However a "spring" is where the water essentially flows or "springs" from the ground. 

BTW - It would probably be good to restrict the waymarks to public access areas only.

I like the category idea as well. There are several here. I have a waymark WM2313 (McConnell Springs) which is a nature center that has evolved around the spring (this is also my bio photo). Maybe this will give some people some insight into the springs that are public.

Public access is a good idea . it would be nice to add a varialbe for private porperty with permission or something along those lines.

Yes we would only be waymarking the springs themselves. One of the listing requirements would be for magnitude of the springs as determined by water flow.

the federation:

One of the listing requirements would be for magnitude of the springs as determined by water flow.

What does "magnitude of the springs as determined by water flow" mean?

I took it to mean how much flow at the source.

What I wonder is how I am supposed to determine this with any true accuracy. I suppose some of the larger springs will have the amounts on record somewhere but I don't know and would like to see some examples of what is looked for in regards to an answer as well.

ggmorton:

the federation:

One of the listing requirements would be for magnitude of the springs as determined by water flow.

What does "magnitude of the springs as determined by water flow" mean?

The magnitude is the size determined by how much water flows across a specified place,usually a guage at the point where the spring exits the ground.

That is usually a square or roundish cement or natural place where a flow meter,or measurement marks can be placed and monitored.

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ggmorton:

the federation:

One of the listing requirements would be for magnitude of the springs as determined by water flow.

What does "magnitude of the springs as determined by water flow" mean?

The magnitude is the size determined by how much water flows across a specified place,usually a guage at the point where the spring exits the ground.

That is usually a square or roundish cement or natural place where a flow meter,or measurement marks can be placed and monitored.

There isn't always something like that though.  Especially if you come across one hiking out in the back country.  Maybe there could be a drop down list with with 4-5 choices of flow amounts and descriptions of what that type of flow compares to. 

GEO*TRAILBLAZER 1:

The magnitude is the size determined by how much water flows across a specified place,usually a guage at the point where the spring exits the ground.

That is usually a square or roundish cement or natural place where a flow meter,or measurement marks can be placed and monitored.

I've never seen any such flow meter for all of the springs I have ever seen. This sounds very technical and if it is required then you will be excluding many springs from the category.

ggmorton:

GEO*TRAILBLAZER 1:

The magnitude is the size determined by how much water flows across a specified place,usually a guage at the point where the spring exits the ground.

That is usually a square or roundish cement or natural place where a flow meter,or measurement marks can be placed and monitored.

I've never seen any such flow meter for all of the springs I have ever seen. This sounds very technical and if it is required then you will be excluding many springs from the category.

There are many.

Up until this point have you ever looked for one,or heard of them?

They usually look like a tape measure.

I will go down to the local spring after Thanksgiving and get a picture or 2.

Why the requirement for a photo of the waymarker and GPS to submit a waymark in the category?    This does nothing to enhance the photo or the waymark.

  We appreciate all the positve feedback from the more experienced waymarkers here. Our desire to gauge the flow of the springs is not a science but a calculation so we can gauge the size and flow of the spring. In a non scinetific manner the flow of the spring is also generally determined by the size of the spring a very large spring would be a higher magnitude spring while a smaller magintude spring would be generally reflected by less surface area of the spring. I beleive the variable is set up as an option not as a mandatory reuirement.  Although many of the larger spring"s flow can be found by internet searches it will not be a requirment that will limit indiuction to the category. If it is not set up as a variable we will adress that after the voting period expires.

As far as the inclusion of the Waymarker with the GPS we based that off of many similiar requirements in different catergories for proof of listing. We felt that it was a nice touch to be able to put faces with names of the people who discover these Natural Springs as well as a positive way to put put a waymarker at the discovery and not just post copyrighted photos ect..
We belkeive this will be a nice addition that many around the world can and will enjoy and we appreciate your support for this category.

Most categories which require gps photos are old categories, often those which were moved directly over from locationless caches, most new categories do not require such photos.  If  the category is about "Natural Free Flowing Springs" I don't think a gps covering up fourth of the photo does any to enhance the "Natural" part of it.  Photos with people I don't mind as much though many waymarkers go alone (which I do mostly and take many self photos).  If people want to be seen they can post a photo of  themselves in their profile for everyone to enjoy.  As far as preventing people from using copied photos it has not been too much of a problem (yes it has happened and you should reject those).  A gps only photo does not prevent this as any good photoshopper can put a gps in a photo.  It is better to require a couple of good photos from different angles etc. 

As 'Bruce' stated: GPS photos were holdovers from the old "beta" version.

Anyone who has been following any of my Categories knows that I have been "vehemently" opposed to GPS photos spoiling an otherwise good Waymark picture just once too often.. Since the beginning almost all of our/my  Categories require at least 2 photos of the location and or object.
 This is a "Waymarking.com  - Catalog"  with pictures and not a phone book. 

I appreciate the comments and opinions about GPS photos within waymarking shots. I personally like the gps  picture there as well as do others. I will keep this in mind for future catgory proposals.

the federation:

I appreciate the comments and opinions about GPS photos within waymarking shots. I personally like the gps  picture there as well as do others. I will keep this in mind for future catgory proposals.

 

I would make the GPS OPTIONAL not a requirement.

Not very many in here like it.

 

I guess he's on his own trip and doesn't listen to the voice of experience.

Instead of Mammoth Springs, Arkansas, I'll have to post a local 1 gallon/minute trickle with my pretty face and new GPSr.

I have heard from the experience of the community and now that Groundspeak has listed the category I have edited it and removed the GPS requirement from the posting requirements.Dont remember if it is the visiting requirements if so that will be edited as well.  I will also be posting some sample pics of various size springs so magnitude can be better judged.

Great job.

I will be adding quite a few too.

Thanks for accepting our advice,it will make a better category in the long run.

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