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Last post 03-06-2009, 8:30 AM by team farkle 7. 13 replies.
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  •  03-01-2009, 6:19 AM 21562

    Fireworks Trees AND...

    Hey all,

    So Fireworks Trees is going well, even better than I thought. With ones from New Zealand, Brazil, Canada, Australia, and Slovenia, they're even more global than I imagined.

    Well, I was wondering about an item that is quite similar and thought that instead of a separate category, they could possibly be combined. I'm talking about the Electric Palm Tree. Perhaps you've seen them around. If not below is an example.

    Although, I personally wouldn't have placed them anywhere near real ones, they are very tacky though.

    Hmmm, wonder what ever happened to the Flamingo category?

  •  03-01-2009, 6:26 PM 21579 in reply to 21562

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    I was wondering the same thing. I've seen quite a few of the electric palm trees around these parts.
  •  03-01-2009, 6:32 PM 21580 in reply to 21562

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    team farkle 7:
    Well, I was wondering about an item that is quite similar and thought that instead of a separate category, they could possibly be combined. I'm talking about the Electric Palm Tree. Perhaps you've seen them around.


    I think it would be a perfect item to add to the category.  Fireworks trees seem limited in scope so adding something like this, which I don't think is that huge either, would be great!
  •  03-01-2009, 7:52 PM 21582 in reply to 21580

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    I've seen several, some at (ahem) Hooter's Restaurants, but some at marinas and other restaurants with sand/patio areas.

    I'm not sure how you could go about adding these into the existing category though. The vote was on Fireworks Trees... and while they are sort of related, you run the risk of a slippery slope. Next comes "Tiki Lights", "Advertising Spotlights","Marques"...

    I'd rather see a separate category. Adding new items in post-acceptance is not likely to be favourable.

    Cool BQ
  •  03-02-2009, 2:21 AM 21588 in reply to 21562

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    What a hoot!  This category came too late for me to grab the one I passed all the time in Ohio.  I've seen a few here in Korea, but I've never been able to get one actually lit up.

    But, these palm trees are fairly common here!  I don't think I'd ever seen them before.  My favorite ones are at the Sajo Ski Resort near here where we took our kids during winter camp!


  •  03-02-2009, 5:57 AM 21597 in reply to 21562

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    You're not a car dealership in South Florida unless you've got one.

    Surprisingly, our Hooters doesn't have one, BQ.

    But these are harder to find in places that aren't here and not everybody in the world is going to come down here just to waymark every single one, so I think it could be its own fun separate category!

    Good luck!

  •  03-02-2009, 9:31 PM 21623 in reply to 21582

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    the blue quasar:
    I'm not sure how you could go about adding these into the existing category... and while they are sort of related, you run the risk of a slippery slope. I'd rather see a separate category. Adding new items in post-acceptance is not likely to be favourable. Cool BQ

    Well, you are forgetting, you're dealing with the man who got the second and more inclusive neon category going (only of course after trying to convince the other to be inclusive). Now, that I've broken my arm patting myself on the back...

    Seriously. As you said, they are sort of related. They are both artificial trees that light up and can be found out in front of various establishments. I think it could be done either way and I am looking for some sort of a concensus (even though it seems a small percentage actually reads the forums).

    Oh and how about throwing in Rotospheres just to top it off? There certainly aren't enough of them around to warrant their own category...

    Fireworks, Rotospheres, & LightningElectric Palm Trees Paradise

    Cool

  •  03-03-2009, 8:36 AM 21638 in reply to 21623

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    yes, but what about the fireworks trees with no fire? all my life i have seen them installed in fountains--the mall, car dealers, parks,......

    do we need a 'fire[less]works trees'? what if i fill the fountain with a flammable liquid and light it? would that be enough fire to get the tree posted.   

  •  03-03-2009, 3:15 PM 21651 in reply to 21623

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    I've never seen these electric palm trees, but then again I've never seen a firework tree either and couldn't tell you about rotospheres (maybe Googie Architecture??).  I'm leaning more with BQ's comments that the category was voted on only including the firework trees.  Maybe you could brainstorm a larger category of large scale or permanent Kitschy, Retro & Eclectic Decor?
  •  03-03-2009, 10:58 PM 21663 in reply to 21638

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    chapterhouseinc:
    yes, but what about the fireworks trees with no fire? all my life i have seen them installed in fountains--the mall, car dealers, parks,...  do we need a 'fire[less]works trees'? what if i fill the fountain with a flammable liquid and light it? would that be enough fire to get the tree posted.   

    Hmmm, a fireworks tree with no fire? Is just a tree... http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM5E9Z

    As you can see a "fire[less]works trees" category isn't neccessary, and "only you can prevent forest fires"... so don't fill the fountain with anything flammable. None of us here want to see that episode of CSI MIAMI. 

    I thought I wrote a decent description... So... here we go!

    A Fireworks tree is basically a sphere with multiple "sputnik" like rigid tubes of clear plastic sticking out. Inside of which is essentially rope lights. The lights are different colors and when it is functioning correctly, looks like one of the big aerial fireworks. See below. See the video in the long description.

    An Electric Palm Tree, should be self-explanatory... but then again...

    A Rotosphere is a 3' metal sphere split in half with around 8 aluminum spikes on each half. Each spike is 8' in length and is outlined with neon tubing. That's an incredible 19' wingspan!!! Inside the sphere is a differential that powers the Rotosphere. Rotating on its axis from its mount, the two halve then turn in opposite directions. It is a sight everyone should see, they are the most amazing pieces of advertizement ever created. Again, see below. Also, video of one of these can be see in the neon sign category's long description.

    From 1960-1971, Warren Milks created approximately 234 of them. There are now only 17 known to exist, of these, only 7 are fully operational. The ones with multiple colors are just out of this world. Anyone interested in receiving a copy of Mr. Milks' US patent, let me know. I'd be happy to send it as a pdf. (Note: not really looking to add these to the "Trees" category. They're fine over at Neon Signs)

    I present this not only to demonstrate the similarities, but also to attempt to clear up any confusion. Some confusion may be the result of another form of lighting frequently referred to as a Sputnik. Here's just one example (yeah, I own a sputnik, I can't afford a Rotosphere).

    As you can see, it too has a sphere with a bunch of spikes sticking out of it. At the end of each spike is a light. In this case they're LED, but older models usually were incandescent bulbs.

    Now then, I guess when I declined your waymark, chapterhouseinc., my comments then were not clear enough. Based on what I'm able to see from your photos, it is not a fireworks tree that you found. That I can say without a doubt.

    There isn't, however, enough detail for me to say for sure, but it looks like what you found was either a "Sputnik" style lighting fixture atop of a fountain, or more likely, simply a fountain. The reason why I say this is because the images do not allow for me to clearly see what is at the end of each spike. (Which btw are not made of clear tubing, but is either electrical conduit [unlikely], or, just simple plumbing [most likely].) It would appear that each spike has either a lamp socket or perhaps a spray nozzle. If in fact it were to turn out that they are lamp sockets then it would be a "Sputnik" lighting fixture. However I'm inclined to believe that what is actually at the ends is some sort of spray nozzle. You see if indeed this is a fountain, and it certainly looks like it is, any water coming out of the spikes would most likely spray far beyond the little birdbath looking thing in the center and land inside the confines of the outer pool. (Note: garden hose, right hand side of pool.)

     

    So, I have to say sorry, but you have your work cut out for you if you want to persuade me this is a fireworks tree. Again, as far as a non-working fireworks tree category goes, that wouldn't be neccessary, I have accepted one already. http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM5E9Z I didn't write the category in such a manner that specifically excludes them.

    Are there any questions? Okay, where were we??? Oh yeah, trying to have a good time.

    HyperLink

  •  03-03-2009, 11:03 PM 21664 in reply to 21663

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    team farkle 7:

    HyperLink

    Time for bed...
  •  03-05-2009, 5:03 AM 21674 in reply to 21579

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  •  03-05-2009, 10:48 AM 21677 in reply to 21674

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    Hey, Farkle ....  do you happen to have alot of stock in Edison?   hmmmm....    hehe
  •  03-06-2009, 8:30 AM 21680 in reply to 21677

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    fishingwishing:
    Hey, Farkle ....  do you happen to have alot of stock in Edison?   hmmmm....    hehe

    No not a  lot. I'm just getting tired of replacing the batteries in all my other waymarks.

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