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I see why some people call this waitmarking. I post Sir William Johnson's Fort on the 18th and it still hasn't been reviewed yet. Is there any reviewers in the Fort catagory? Swizzle

That 3 days... start worrying if it gets to 7 days.

Consider that the reviewers might not use their computers the way you do. They might not even look until the weekend. Alternatively, they might not even OWN a computer, and they use the one at work. Three days is the MINIMUM you should expect.  The reviewers are only people--and they might be out collecting their own waymarks!!!

You can keep posting even while waiting...Happy Waymarking!

If you're getting antsy, send a polite message to the group leader for an update on the status. Let 'em know you're a new waymarker and you just want to make sure everything's okay with it. That would light a fire under me to review the waymark.

Redneck Parrotheads:

If you're getting antsy, send a polite message to the group leader for an update on the status. Let 'em know you're a new waymarker and you just want to make sure everything's okay with it. That would light a fire under me to review the waymark.

If you email me when a waymark has only been up for 3 days, I might just put it up for vote... that takes 3 days.  Relax, be patient.  Keep submitting waymarks.  If you have entered 10 or 20 at a time then having one take 3 days won't seem too long, as some will take minutes, some will take hours, some will take days, and occasionally some will take weeks.

I've known from the start that it could take up to a week for a WM to get submitted. I'm just wondering what takes so long compared to geocaching. The longest I've had to wait there is a day and a half. I know for the most part each catagory has 3 officers and I know each has their own personal life which is understandable too. I know I am a bit impatient wondering the whole time if my WM needs to be redone or if it doesn't fit the catagory. Now how do I go about sending a message to a group leader. If they're trying to make a tough decision because of some little thing I could change in a few seconds then I'd like to be able to change it without the extra wait. If they are just busy with their lives then I'd like to know that to. I don't want to seem pushy and I know all of the reviewers are volunteers so I don't want to push buttons either. Just wondering what's going on is all. Swizzle

Well, I'll be sure to pass along the praises that you have for Sapience Trek and/or NY Admin. A day and a half is much faster than the cited 72 hours.

As for sending a message, you can go to your waymark and click the link that takes you to the management group. From there the person on top is the Leader.

However, I would suggest being a wee bit more patient. If it took a day or two just to send it to vote the minimum it could take is 5 days. The entire group of Officers will already have received notice, and most people I would hope are also aware of the yellow triangle on every waymark page stating they have stuff to review.

It'll happen, hang in there... it is the weekend too.

BQ

Well I guess I'll make it my own preference to wait a week and then send a politely worded note. These guys get enough grief from people trying to fit their square peg in a round hole. I know when I first started setting up caches I use to give my reviewer a hard time. Once I found out they are volunteers and not getting anything out of geocaching at all then my point of view changed quite a bit. I have to admire someone who takes on the extra BS with nothing in return. Maybe I should take this moment to personally thank all of you reviewers out there. THANK YOU!!! Jason LaPort

Redneck Parrotheads:

If you're getting antsy, send a polite message to the group leader for an update on the status.

That's a good idea!

One of the groups I'm in, the leader hasn't signed in for two months.
What's he going to do if you email?
Ignore it, just like all the notifications he's had about new waymarks!

Strange how the leader has signed in, and promoted a new member to officer, just as a vote is called to demote the leader!

Patiance is a virtue.
Your waymark will be dealt with as soon as possible.

a month is when i start worrying....
and when notes to all officers get you nowhere?
thats a good term. you should copyright that one. well put in in the glossary next to armchair logger.

there are those who like certain things (firetrucks) and ill let them approve them. but if i see it sit too long ill approve it. dont want to steal someone elses thunder (but then again i like to snipe--approve GHMs)

Please, I have one in vote that's been there since the end of January.  I've contacted management of the category, no response, I've contact Checkmark who checked that it was still active and sitting there.  So it just sits there for a vote and I wait.

I had one published last night, I was confused as I didn't remember it.  It was because it was put in the queue two months ago.

Dang and I'm fussin' over my Sir William Johnson's Fort WM and its only day 6. Tomorrow I send out the nicely worded email and we'll see what happens. I just had another one approved a few minutes ago that sat for almost a week. Swizzle

ODragon:

Please, I have one in vote that's been there since the end of January.  I've contacted management of the category, no response, I've contact Checkmark who checked that it was still active and sitting there.  So it just sits there for a vote and I wait.

I had one published last night, I was confused as I didn't remember it.  It was because it was put in the queue two months ago.

It would be nice if there was an upper threshold for this issue. Once a Waymark gets over one month, there should be some significant action from the site about the lack of response from the group involved.

BQ

the blue quasar:

It would be nice if there was an upper threshold for this issue. Once a Waymark gets over one month, there should be some significant action from the site about the lack of response from the group involved. BQ

I seriously think this is what should be done!
After 30 days any pending waymark should automatically be approved.

I'm not going to start a thread "Does Group Management Work."  We all know that it does, and it doesn't.  Theoretically each category has a minimum of three active officers.  IF that were true, the 72-hour approval goal would be realistic.  If one is gone for a weekend, on vacation, working long hours, in the hospital, or whatever, then there should be at least one person to carry the load.

The problem is that many categories have only one officer who is regularly active and reviewing, sometimes there is none - all are irregular, infrequent participants.

Whatever the case, I certainly think that any waymark that has gone for thirty days without resolution should automatically be approved, whether it is sitting in the queue or has gone to vote.  There is no reason at all that someone should have to wait that long.  It shouldn't be an involved piece of programming to do that, I should think, and it would be one piece of the solution to this persistent and aggravating problem.

There seems to be some concern about losing potential waymarks, so an across-the-board change is being planned to change all variables to non-required and setting up the "orphan waymark" system.  Yet, a few simple things like fixing this, or the persistent problems uploading photos, a buggy voting system, etc.,  might save more waymarks by keeping newcomers from leaving out of frustration.  Or, so it seems to me.

I have to disagree with the automatic approval. I could easily find a catagory that has absentee reviewers and decide to waymark a dog turd that looks like elvis or something completely ridiculous. Someone should have to review it before its published. Maybe someone or some people that oversees all of the reviewers. If something hasn't been voted on within a week then it should pop up into their que and they can question the reviewers directly or vote on it themselves. We'll call the The Reviewer OverLords or something cool like that. Swizzle

i concur. autoapprove went way with beta. we got lots of those elvis things he was talking about in my own yard.....at somepoint some person(s) need to actually look at it.

but then, what if it is some oddball category....the time it is going to take you to figure out what is and isnt allowed (and, no, looking at 'already approved marks' will not always help) it might be several months....

I sent a politely worded note to inquire about my Sir William Johnson's Fort submition and to my suprize its Briansnat that is the officer. I see he's posted in geocaching today but he still has yet to reply to my email. Is he still an active waymarker? I just figured I'd at least get a shout back saying he's busy or working on it. Yes I know I'm just like a bad doctor. I have no patience. Swizzle

swizzle:

I sent a politely worded note to inquire about my Sir William Johnson's Fort submition and to my suprize its Briansnat that is the officer. I see he's posted in geocaching today but he still has yet to reply to my email. Is he still an active waymarker? I just figured I'd at least get a shout back saying he's busy or working on it. Yes I know I'm just like a bad doctor. I have no patience. Swizzle

Briansnat is not as active as some other Waymarkers, but goes in spurts and such. The "Forts" category does experience some delays in the review process from time to time. I was once a member but after some time I opted out since I felt unqualified to make accurate decisions.

BQ

I'm pleased that you lend your qualifications to Dairy Queen, A&W, Subway, Tim Horton's...all the good stuff Peanut Buster Parfait, Rootbeer Float, Spicy Italian Sub and a honey crueller (with and Extra Large, Regular of course).

KE

Ok. That makes me feel a little better. I just don't want to have it waiting around for months. I guess I'll wait it out for another week and if its still not reviewed I'll send him another email through geocaching and/or email the next reviewer in line. I just don't want to seem to pushy and end up striking a raw nerve with a sensitive reviewer and getting declined for no good reason. Do you guys think I'm being to pushy waiting a week in between emails? Swizzle

wildwoodke:

I'm pleased that you lend your qualifications to Dairy Queen, A&W, Subway, Tim Horton's...all the good stuff Peanut Buster Parfait, Rootbeer Float, Spicy Italian Sub and a honey crueller (with and Extra Large, Regular of course).

KE

Definitely qualified on all of those places... just ask my doctor and his magic BMI wheel that seems stuck on "Borderline Obese"

BQ

wildwoodke:

I'm pleased that you lend your qualifications to Dairy Queen, A&W, Subway, Tim Horton's...all the good stuff Peanut Buster Parfait, Rootbeer Float, Spicy Italian Sub and a honey crueller (with and Extra Large, Regular of course).

KE

What? No double double? Rrrroll up that rrrim....

You guys are making me hungry. I could go for a nice thick philly steak with swiss and provilone and mushrooms and maybe just enough hot sauce to make my snot sweat. Swizzle

silverquill:

the blue quasar:

It would be nice if there was an upper threshold for this issue. Once a Waymark gets over one month, there should be some significant action from the site about the lack of response from the group involved. BQ

I seriously think this is what should be done!
After 30 days any pending waymark should automatically be approved.

I think it should automatically go to a vote.  That would at least trigger some more automatic notifications, including letting the poster know. If the vote doesn't progress within a certain deadline, then the next premium waymarker that logs into the site should get drafted to approve it, and become an officer in that category.

And while I have this train of thought going, how about we fix the missing officer situation by autopromoting based on total number of Approvals-and-rejections after some criteria is met?

anyone remember their learners permit to drive? i know its more strict now and you must drive so many hours and such......so, you need to drive your waymarking permit a while before you get a license......

im not sure the 'next member' will be a good idea either, maybe the next PM that is a groupie in that category.........we all know voting gets stuck.....why dont we get a message that our mark has been sent to a vote? (those searches in my marks dont work either, you dont know unless you click on the mark in your list)