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Is there an existing category for buildings on a local register of historic places? 

These are much like the national register except...you know...local.  I've noticed signs saying that a building is on the "CityName register of historic sites" in multiple towns but didn't find anything for them after a quick category search.  I know often these places fit in other existing categories too, I just wondered if there was a category just for them.

So...no?

Or I'm missing something so big that you're all just laughing at me behind your monitors.

No one is laughing at you. That you know of.

But seriously, I think there is potential for such a category. I don't remember encountering any of these before, but based on a quick web search it is clear that such organized registers do exist.

For example, the Michigan State Housing Development Authority maintains a list of some 3,500 historic sites in Michigan: Historic Sites Online

The city of Reno, Nevada has a less organized list that currently has 12 locations that the city appears to have identified as "historic": City of Reno Registry of Historic Places

There are other examples. You'd just need to come up with the general 'qualification' statement for your category, such as "Must appear on an official city or state Historic Register, as either identified on a permanent marker or on a qualifying web site (home-grown sites and general point-of-interest sites do not qualify) ..."

Or something like that.

i was going to leave this to bruce: as he mentioned months ago about 'nonofficial categories' for such 'local lists', but it went nowhere....as who wants to post waymarks that you cant visit (yea, well, UCMs have some benefits).....

but this listing criteria will omit some smaller areas that do not have resources to have a website listing or erect plaques on the buildings....

is this going to be a 'your local historic places' category, or a 'state historic places'....
i dont think the small scale would pass, and the large scale will have too many issues in the global aspect.....

what about info availability? it might be on a list, it might have a plaque mounted, but is there any info to be [easily] found to include in the description?

i also think that this will have quite a bit of overlap with other categories--but bruce wanted to have a place for those that werent accptable elsewhere, and to notate them as locally historical (correct?)

cache_test_dummies:

exist.

For example, the Michigan State Housing Development Authority maintains a list of some 3,500 historic sites in Michigan: Historic Sites Online

The Michigan Historic Sites Online appears to be a subset of the NRHP. So far, thats all I've seen in their database.

Well, I would expect lots of overlap between any local /regional listings and the NHRP, but I know some states (like Colorado) have an entirely separate registration process for their state historic registry. So I'd expect to see some differences.

Perhaps the Local Registry category could have the requirement of "not listed on the NHRP at the time of submission".

i take it that local registries are just a spring board to get on the NRHP....they protect it locally in the hopes that one day it gets state or national recognition....

cache_test_dummies:

No one is laughing at you. That you know of.

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There are other examples. You'd just need to come up with the general 'qualification' statement for your category, such as "Must appear on an official city or state Historic Register, as either identified on a permanent marker or on a qualifying web site (home-grown sites and general point-of-interest sites do not qualify) ..."

Or something like that.

I can handle the laughter, just let's get it all out in the open


I'm not currently interested in starting a new category. I just wondered if there was a dedicated place for these yet.

chapterhouseinc:

i was going to leave this to bruce: as he mentioned months ago about 'nonofficial categories' for such 'local lists', but it went nowhere....as who wants to post waymarks that you cant visit (yea, well, UCMs have some benefits)..... but this listing criteria will omit some smaller areas that do not have resources to have a website listing or erect plaques on the buildings.... is this going to be a 'your local historic places' category, or a 'state historic places'.... i dont think the small scale would pass, and the large scale will have too many issues in the global aspect..... what about info availability? it might be on a list, it might have a plaque mounted, but is there any info to be [easily] found to include in the description? i also think that this will have quite a bit of overlap with other categories--but bruce wanted to have a place for those that werent accptable elsewhere, and to notate them as locally historical (correct?)

I must have missed the earlier discussion on this.  Link, anyone? Please?

I don't think I understand what you're saying about posting waymarks that you can't visit.

If I were planning on creating a category (which I'm not), I wouldn't dare attempt one for my particular local area as I know that's not what waymarking is for.  In my mind, a category for these would allow anything posted on a register of historic places that's not the US National Register, since there's already a great place to put those.  If a place is listed on both lists, then it should be waymarked in both places.

chapterhouseinc:

i take it that local registries are just a spring board to get on the NRHP....they protect it locally in the hopes that one day it gets state or national recognition....

I think this is probably true in a lot of situations.  And if the locals think it's important enough to preserve, then I'd bet there's a good chance it's fairly interesting.

yramc600:

I'm not currently interested in starting a new category. I just wondered if there was a dedicated place for these yet.

No not specifically.  You might check though... many locations listed in local historical districts are also listed in historical districts on the National Register  and these can be submitted to the Contributing Buildings category.  Unfortunately North Carolina does not have a great on-line source of National Register nomination forms however they do have pdf's available for the most resent additions to the Register here.

Thanks, Bruce.